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Alias?Edit

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Nathan900130 Message Wall 8:23 July 7 2010 (UTC)

He called himself the Hero of Love and Justice. Is that count as his alias?

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Takoto Message Wall 00:29, July 7, 2010 (UTC)

I... don't think that really counts.

Read before editing Bang's page. Edit

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Takoto Message Wall 17:25, August 1, 2010 (UTC)

Anyone who adds Bellpepers to his dislikes gets an three day ban. It is not listed in his Material Collection Information, only in his win quote, and that section alone is for Material Collection Information. Seriously guys, don't make me have to protect this page.

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Takoto Message Wall 19:05, August 13, 2010 (UTC)

Aaaaand protecting Bang's page for a week on account of people still adding it.

HomeplaceEdit

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Nathan900130 Message Wall 15:49 September 19 2011 (UTC)

Hey! Long time no see! I have a question: Bang's birthplace is listed as Hino-Kuni, but isn't he from Ikaruga?

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I read this a while back but Ikaruga is a state and Hino-Kuni is the capital but at least thats what I think it said

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If Ikaruga was an imperial nation, then it may be subdivided into regional nations (kuni). However, kuni can also refer to a province or region, rather than an independently-ruled country that makes up part of a larger sovereign empire. If it had been oukoku, rather than simply kuni, then that would clarify things a bit more, implying a great deal more fractiousness in Ikaruga.

TriviaEdit

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88.78.165.105 Message Wall 06:29, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

The name of Bang's story in CS "Lost ARCH ENEMY" has a double meaning. It can refer to Bang having lost Jin as his arch enemy, since Trinity told him about his true enemy(the system of the NOL). It can however also refer to the last and missing Nox Nyctores Bang possesses(Rettenjou), since Nox Nyctores are called Arch Enemies in Japan.

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Night Vision Message Wall 10:44, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

For me, that means only his "lost" Nox Nyctores.

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88.78.165.105 Message Wall 12:35, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Uh, that's the point of double entendres, you know...? Since the meaning is ambiguous, some people may interpret words in a different way. Most of the non-Japanese people, who only play in English would probably never understand the other meaning, since Arch Enemies were localized, Bang's story name however was not. There is not just one interpretation behind the story name. Japanese people love to play with words, that's why I think this deserves a trivia remark to explain this. I would totally agree with you if Aksys had localized Bang's story title, but they haven't.

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Localized story title: "Lost NOX NYCTORES" XD I don't know why, but this title is funny. Hey, someone can tell me for what 事象兵器アークエネミー, Jishō Heiki Āku Enemī - Arch Enemy causality weapons, they translated as Nox Nyctores causality weapons? With Arch Enemy is better :3

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88.78.165.105 Message Wall 14:04, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

1. Since they localized the game first in the US, it might have sounded a bit awkward for natives. The point is that the weapons sound somehow foreign for the people playing. Everything else(in the jap-dub) was in Japanese or at the least is based on Japanese mythology etc., while the Nox Nyctores, as special weapons are kind of from a foreign world. Though the name itself, including the titles Detonator and Highlander are the exceptions.

2. Consistency. Ars Magus is Latin, the NOL is Latin, even the titles of the NNs are in Latin(including Ignis), so it would have sounded a bit off if the weapons had an English term/name, with the exceptions of the NNs explicit names, since... well, they are proper names(yes, I purposely repeated myself just now ;D). Although I never would have guessed what exactly the meaning of seithr or Ars is without a lexicon/dictionary. Giving them foreign sounding terms is maybe a bit too consistent, since these terms were actually in proper Japanese.

And yeah, "Lost NOX NYCTORES" might have sounded a bit funny at first, but then everyone would have immediately understood the message. I'm pretty sure this double entendre is intended and many people do not understand the hidden meaning behind this title.

Edit: One more thing. The term Sankishin is obviously kept in Japanese to emphasize the focus on the three Japanese gods Amaterasu, Susanooh and Tsukuyomi, as well as the three sacred treasures. However, then I must wonder why exactly they translated "the sword of Izanami" with "the sword of the Imperator"...

Can you guys post his japanese quotes? I'd love to see his memorable phrases here ^^

189.81.247.162 02:56, November 28, 2012 (UTC)Taishu

a trivia note on the emblem Edit

I noticed that the shishigami part is refered to be the twin lions, but the two nails has a pheonix design in the middle (a reference to pheonix rettenjo, his nox) we should make a note of this.

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